Summary...LDC Collection Systems employs deceitful practices to extort innocent people into paying unpaid parking violations of others.
I received my first letter from LDC Collection Systems about 11/17/08. It was a "Final Collection Notice" for parking citation issued in San Francisco in 2004 for a license plate number that didn't look familiar. I figured it was some sort of transposition err and I would call them the next day and clear it up.
When I called the agent asked me if I owned a Blue VW Jetta (I did eight years ago) and did I ever live at a particular address (yes, nine years ago). I explained that I never had that license plate and that I turned the car back into the dealership (it was a lease) nearly 4 years before the citation was issued. They informed me that I still need to send proof that I did release the car. I sent them the odometer statement and the last correspondence from Bank of America which included my account number and term of the lease (ending July 2000). I figured that would end the confusion.
I received a second letter from LDC Collection Systems on 12/15/08 stating that I had not payed or submitted adequate proof that I am not liable payment for the citation. I called immediately and they notified me that I needed to submit more proof like the name of the person at the dealership I left that car with (whom I'm sure doesn't even work there anymore). I was incredulous. How is it my responsibility to prove that a car that had a license plate number that was never registered to me wasn't registered to me. I was furious.
I asked to speak to the supervisor and she said she wasn't going to argue with me. According to their "information" received from the DMV, I was the registered operator of the car and that I need to prove to them that I wasn't. They are flat out lying.
So I went to the DMV and explained my predicament. They looked up the tag number and confirmed that it was on that car but it wasn't registered to me and couldn't release this information because of a privacy concern. DMV told me that I need to request a vehicle VIN history from Sacramento (state capitol) and that cost $5. As of this post I am waiting for the paperwork from Sacramento so I can submit this back to LDC. I also notified Bank of America and sent them the information. They said they would follow up with LDC directly.
It appears that LDC sends collection notices to previously registered operators of cars with unpaid parking tickets with the threat of damaging your credit rating unless you prove that the vehicle tag on the citation is not yours. This obviously easy for them to do and hard for the general public.
I am posting this article in the hope of finding others that have fallen victim to this practice so I confirm that it is systemic and if so start a class action lawsuit.
Have you had any luck with them? I contacted them and they were so rude and couldn't be any more helpless to me. I'm thinking about ignoring their attempts to extort payment for a ticket I never received!
ReplyDeleteWho can we contact..the ticket was days before we bought may 11 th and is not even a car tag number n texas. Our title shows we bought it 4 days later an tag registered was issued in april an is on the title.. nothing matches.. first car shes had n her name since 2014. All numbers an email come back errors or no calls how do we fight sent letter no reply either is this not criminal fraud...
DeleteI will be visiting Providence Municipal Court this Friday to prove that a license plate has not been registered to me for the past three years. The summons to court arrived more than one year after the first violation and 3 days after the court date on the summons. Hence it must have automatically been sent to LDC when I didn't show up to plead my case. In fact a second summons for this Friday showed up on the same day at that first one. I will finally have a change to resolve this matter and when I called LDC to ask what documentation would need from the court when my case was dropped....the LDC rep was unable to answer the question because she obviously hadn't been listening to me (lots of typing heard in the background). Since I've spent more that a month now trying to deal with this issue by phone to Providence civil servants and getting NOWHERE, I have lost confidence that they will follow through and remove me from the collection agency. Stay tuned....
DeleteIt's still unresolved. I called several weeks ago since the folks at BofA (the lease holder of my vehicle) said they contacted LDC (on or about 12/19/2008) and that they would clear it up after they received the paper work (release) from them. LDC confirmed they received it and would get around to writing a response when time allowed. No response so far.
ReplyDeleteLDC is pure shit
DeleteHi Jim. Same thing happened to me! I received 9 parking tickets from 2004 and 2005 from LDC. I sent in the release of liability for the vehicle all the way back in 2004 and I no longer have a copy. I am writing a letter to them now...
ReplyDeleteIt sounds like the same thing is happening to me. I just received a letter claiming I was in SF in October 2008 in a rental that received a ticket for street cleaning violation. I was never there! I will be calling on Monday.
ReplyDeleteDoesn't it seem odd that they would have a form letter for people that are renting cars? I wonder how many people end up paying these false collections in fear of a negative mark on their credit. This is BS and I refuse to pay it. I'll keep you posted. Thank you for sharing your story.
OMG this is so familiar! We sold our Ford Explorer on 1/21/05 and the jerk got a ticket on 1/28/05. Luckily, we had done all the required paperwork so we left a trail. Soon after (of course he did not pay the ticket) we rec'd a bill for a street sweeping ticket in Long Beach. We submitted all the paperwork which included a trip to the DMV--always a nightmare. We mailed it certified mail and thought that was the end of it, but no they sent it on to collections anyway. This first place never even answered the phone and we left message after message. Sent all the paperwork again and now THREE years later we hear from LDC about the same damn ticket. I sent all the info to LDC after talking to a lady there and today I rec'd 2 letters. The first one is labeled Letter #023 and states that we need to send in all the stuff we have already sent in and Letter #220 stating that the City of LB will be reviewing our claim. My husband said just pay them and make it go away, but I say it is the principle of the matter and I won't be blackmailed. We'll see what happens!
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ReplyDeleteI pulled my credit report and found an entry or LDC Collection for $140.00.
ReplyDeleteI did some research and found a court case for a person with my same first and last name, but a different middle name. He was fined $140.00. He lives in a different county.
I've never received any notices about this. I just happened to pull my credit report to check it for accuracy.
I'm still trying to get the entry removed from my credit report. No luck so far.
I'll keep you posted.
same thing just happened to me. I dont even know where to start. I hate this. There is no person you can talk to in Los Angeles. Just an automated system and recorded messages.
DeleteYep, same thing here. I sold my car 10/20/07 and the guy got a street sweeping ticket 10/21. I called him and he said he'd take care of it...But no. I just got a notice from LDC saying now I owe the original fine, plus $100 in extra charges. I sent in the transfer of sale to the DMV originally, but I guess they sent it to LDC anyway. It's the DMV we should go after with a lawsuit.
ReplyDeleteSame thing happened to my husband in Philly. The ticket was three years old. Our DMV had no record of us at all being associated with the plate number or the vehicle. Just rectified this month as being closed.
ReplyDeleteWe got a parking ticket San Francisco, January 18 and the ticket cleared March 23. We received 2 notices that we know of from LDC. When we received the 1st notice I sent them a letter back saying that citation had cleared already. They then sent another letter saying that we still owed $65.00 in late charges. So we paid the tix for $50.00 now LDC wants another $85.00 in late fees...???? horrible, I am calling the Mayor's Office and trying to speak with SF parking and traffic too. Though SF parking were only interested in having me call LDC, and when I asked to speak with a pkg and trfc supervisor her voice mail box was full and she would call me back. over 24 hrs later no call back....
ReplyDeleteI meant to say $85.00 is what they want in late fees now even though the ticket cleared already. Tix originally was issued January 18th and cleared my account and paid in full by March 23rd. So I have already paid $ 50.00 for ticket and now they want an additional $85.00 TOTAL: $130.00 for a ticket paid within 60 days.
ReplyDeleteI recieved a letter from LDC on 05/20/2009 stating I own $54.00, but it doesn't tell me what it's for, it just tells me who I owe this money to.. This is the FIRST notice I've ever gotten about owing Anyone money.. So why would it go to Collection if I haven't ever recieved any notice of an outstanding bill?
ReplyDeleteI gave a car to my sister-in-law on Thanksgiving of 2006. LDC has been trying to threaten me into paying a parket ticket that was issued to that vehicle almost a year after I gave it away.
ReplyDeleteI written several letters stating I am not the owner and giving them the responsible party's info. However, they seem dead set on collecting by any means neccessary.
I never been in long beach and they sent me a letter asking for $79 saying that i past the time limit allowed to park on the street. I live in Massashit and never been in long shit. This administration needs to do something to these people
ReplyDeleteWow, I just got a delingquent parking violation notice yesterday for a citation on 3-13-09 in San Francisco. Problem is the plate number and vehicle model are correct for my car, but neither my car nor I have been in San Francisco! Any advice? Carole E.
ReplyDeleteI just paid a payment to them yesterday for a violation and they reported me on the same day for non payment. I just recieved the notice today. So now I'm out the money and still get a ding on my credit score.
ReplyDeleteIt happened to me too. I got four parking tickets in the mail from City of Long Beach on a vehicle I no longer owned for sreet sweeping and parking a vehicle "for sale" on the street. I returned all tix to LB with the new owners name and address. Next thing I know I'm getting collection letters from LDC saying I owe for the four tickets plus $97.00 extra dollars for late fees. I've sent them three letters trying to clear it up. I've also made a trip to the DMV to get a copy of the Release of Liability I filed on-line. I had to send $20 to Sacramento for a copy of that. They seem intent on collecting money from me when I didn't own the vehicle or get the tickets. Why do innocent people have to prove their innocence first to the City of Long Beach, then to LDC Collections. It's B.S.!
ReplyDeleteMy husband has received 3 collection notices from LDC, for unpaid traffic violations and warrants in 4 different jurisdictions in Arizona, for a guy that has the same First and Last name but middle name and date of birth are different. I've called the court, they are useless said I need to resolve it with LDC, LDC doesn't have a phone number or any way of contacting them to resolve the problem. I've been searching the net trying to find a phone number to call and that is how I came across this your site.
ReplyDeleteI'm with roxie. Got a notice from LDC Scottsdale, AZ court for a traffic violation in 06. Wasn't there, not my car, just someone with a common name, spelled wrong, and a partial address, and best of all, I live in Colorado. Apparently LDC uses the "scatter-gun" approach for collecting fines. Threaten enough people and someone will pay!!
ReplyDeleteI just got a letter too, says I owe $297.00. My cop friend checked my record and he said I'm clean. I'm not going to respond to this at all. Sounds like a hoax to me. Is it possible that this has anything to do with recent credit applications? please respond with your thoughts.
ReplyDelete"I am not going to argue with you". This a phrase LDC employee's are trained to say. The "newer" call center operators have a printed format to follow and when hard pressed, the final statement is, "I am ending this conversation now". They are trained to push people to the edge with aggressive verbal communication and walk a very fine legal line. If you pursue legal action, be sure you have a solid paper trail. I would also recommend securing recorded conversations with LDC operators using direct and pointed questions.(Search for others who are STILL dealing with LDC and get them to record all of their verbal interactions) At the very least, draw large amounts of attention to this company publicly and get the BBB involved on your side. Go after their license.......
ReplyDeleteKeep in mind also that the county courts and county administrators who hired and assigned LDC to handle their fine collections are also to blame. They pass the buck on accountablity since all they want is revenue even if its from an inocent payee. Then they plead they are not responsible for a third parties collections actions. Thats B.S. since they gave them the contract....
ReplyDeleteLets have a class action lawsuit against the jokers operating the LDC collection racket.
ReplyDeleteI got a letter from Scotsdale AZ court for traffic violation. They have my address in KENTUCKY, but wrong name. I have recieved several of these notices pressuring me to pay. I have never held a address in Scotsdale, AZ. I think LDC is a load of crap.
ReplyDeleteI have the same problem with LDC saying I owe money from 1999 tickets... that's 11 years ago. I live in Hawaii and have no idea what they are talking about. They are threatening that my credit will be damaged unless I pay. I say class action!!!!!
ReplyDeletesame issue LDC sent me letters with the sane name but ive never been to arizona.i agree,its a big load of crap!
ReplyDeleteDitto..... Just received a letter today and called the court which lied and said LDC does not have a phone number (which I found on the internet: Technology 1, AZ Courts 0). They want me to pay $87 for an $18 seat belt ticket they claim I never paid from 2001. The court claims they never had my address because there was no forward address (bullsh!t again since I always update). I hope this state burns to the ground with their shoddy businesses and courts!
ReplyDeleteI have received 2 letters from this agency collecting a ticket for $115.43 for the state of Arizona to my address in PR where I've been living since 1980, I have never set fooot in Arizona and have called the court South Mountain Justice Court to inform that they have mistaken me for someone else and to please stop sending letters, the person that answered said to mail in the letter I received explaining the situacion to LDC Collection Systems, so they can stop sending me letters, which I'll do tomorrow Jun-09-10
ReplyDeleteI just received a letter from LDC Collection Systems. They are demanding a $541.45 payment. I knew it was not mine so I called I called the North Valley Justice System. I spoke to a clerk and established the middle name of the person they are looking for is not mine. They couldn't help me with any additional information. They basically washed their hands of helping get this error corrected. I was told to send a letter to the LDC Collection System agency explaining they have the wrong party. There appears to be no way to contact this fly-by-night collection agency except to mail something to their PO Box. I am going to report this agency to the AZ Attorney General. This threatening notice was sent to me without any verification that they have the right party… forcing me to find a way to put an end to their incorrect and offensive practices. From reading several posts at this site I can see this is a major problem. Additionally, this collection agency will post erroneous derogatory information on ones credit reports which will have an adverse affect when obtaining credit, insurance, etc.
ReplyDeleteI got the "notice of intent to report to credit bureau" for a $25 late penalty for automated speed ticket in MD. How harmful is that as far as credit goes. I mean doesn't it make a diff if someone is on collection for 1k vs 25 bucks?
ReplyDeleteI just feel the late penalty was unfair. So I got caught in one of those automatic speed cameras (in Rockville, Md) that never knew they existed and got two tickets the same weekend; one going in and one returning; I was apparently like going 10 miles over the limit; $90 each. But I live in Pittsburgh PA and by the time they tracked the car license it was like 2 months later and I got separate ticket notes. I paid them, the 2nd apparently was late (maybe a week late at most, it came late). So although I paid the $180 two tickets, they wanted $25 extra for late penalty for the principle of the unfairness of the whole event, I decided not to pay that after sending them a long letter explaining why it was unfair (I paid on time)... hence LDC collection...
I also just received a letter from the shady LDC Collection Systems yesterday. There is a Notice Date, Notice Number, Case Number, and Balance Due amount all posted on the letter and is directing me to pay the Kyrene Justice Court in chandler, AZ. I have no idea who this company is and what this supposed "bill" is for. Has anyone received a 2nd or 3rd notice from this place? It is directing me to pay the money directly to the court for something of which I have no idea. They claim to report me to the credit bureaus if I don't comply to their demands... I do nto have any intention of paying this without knowing what exactly I would be paying for. Seeing that people that also have posted here have received bills that can be as old as 11 years - seems like total BS to me. I am going to ignore this letter and just see how exactly this plays out. I would have no problem joining up to file a class action suit against these jackwagons!
ReplyDeleteWe got one for $592.62 - Arizona - Phoenix to be exact - we've never even been there. Same first and last name but wrong initial. Courts said they could do nothing and we'd need to send a copy of our driver's license to LDC - WHY IN THE FREAK WOULD WE DO THAT???? Do we really want this company to have MORE information about us to misconstrue? I'm so furious with them - wonder who to report them to? Isn't this harassment at this time?
ReplyDeleteWhat you have to understand is that the states and or cities that hire collection agencies to collect speeding violations don’t care how these agencies go about the processes of collecting their unpaid fines. They pay these agencies a commission or fee.
ReplyDeleteThese collection agencies will simply use the name they were provided and dig up any addresses that matches all or most of the name. Then they will mail out these threatening collection letters. There is no real attempt by these agencies to verify that they have the right party. Even if the collection agency may be sending this trash mail to the wrong party, they don’t care.
Some people are so intimidated by the content of the letter that they actually pay the fine.
When you call the state court listed in the collection notice they basically wash their hands of the matter and tell you to work it out with the collection agency… goodbye!
The collection agency is not interested in what is said by the party that receives the threatening collection letter. As far as they are concerned you are the guilty party and they threaten you further. You are often not even given the opportunity to defend yourself as not being the party they are looking for. And, the collection agencies post negative information on your credit records. Simply making a credit inquiries to you credit records is a negative factor towards your credit score.
I wish I had something positive to say!
Something To Think About
ReplyDeleteLet’s say someone doesn’t like you or some scam artist decides he/she wants to take something from you… money or other assets.
If someone doesn’t like you all they have to do is file a lawsuit against you. They can easily find a sleazy lawyer that will prepare the necessary paperwork. The majority of the required paperwork is often referred to as ‘boiler plate’ A few paragraphs are changed and added to a computerized document and that’s about it. Trial lawyers do this all day long. They file hundreds of frivolous lawsuits against companies knowing that most companies look at the cost/benefit of the barrage of lawsuits and settle out of court…. even when they know they have done nothing illegal.
Trial lawyers count on these frivolous lawsuits as a form of income. I know this to be a fact as I once hired a secretary who previously worked for several trial lawyers.
Now let’s get back to you receiving your own frivolous suit.
The first thing you’re going to have to do is get a lawyer of your own. This can often be an expensive undertaking. Why do you have to get a lawyer? Because the threatening lawsuit will assume your guilt if you do not deal with the lawsuit in the timeframe spelled out. The lawyer you get will not be in any rush to squash the lawsuit as everyday he/she works the lawsuit on your behalf is your money in their bank account.
So, here you are, totally innocent, getting screwed by three sources --- the one that’s after your money, the shady lawyer that filed the lawsuit and the lawyer you will have to pay to ‘prove’ yourself innocent.
Even when the charge against you is dropped, you are out a good chunk of money. You’ve had to take time off to deal with the scam, you may have lost wages for time away, and you had to deal with all the aggravation. And, the other party doesn’t have to pay you a dime for your grief and cost when the lawsuit against you is dropped. The only ones that made any money are the lawyers. Isn’t this a GREAT justice system!
Collection agencies work the same way. You are a source of income to them. They don’t care if you are innocent… they want your money, period. They will never pay you for any of your cost or aggravation you suffered proving you are innocent.
Credit bureaus operate in a similar manor. It is a ‘proven fact’ that credit bureaus routinely post erroneous information to millions of credit files. Yet, they are not held accountable for doing so. You could easily spend months getting this erroneous information removed from your credit records. You have to PROVE the erroneous information is not yours. Derogatory information in your credit bureau files will negatively impact your ability to get a loan and auto and homeowner insurance products. You may get the coverage, but you will pay a higher rate for it. So, this erroneous information in your credit records will cost you in more ways than you can imagine… not to mention identity theft!
Sorry, but it ticks me off when I know thousands of innocent people are getting screwed and the slime-balls don’t pay a price for their inappropriate/reckless behavior.
I received a letter from them on 8/02/10 for a traffic violation from 9/7/99 in Tempe, AZ. That's almost eleven years ago. I couldn't believe it. I register my vehicle every year. I've lived at the same address. Your telling me they couldn't locate me till now??? After reading the other postings I'm thinking this isn't even my ticket. Now I have to take the time and call the court to find out exactly what this alleged traffic ticket is for. I'm not looking forward to dealing with this after what I've read. Isn't there a time limit on these things? Does any one know?
ReplyDeleteI've been sending them proof since 2007. Same story as the rest of you. My paper trail isn't that great so I'm looking to make some noise with local news agencies and politicians. From my working in city government I know the only thing that will cause change is bad press.
ReplyDeleteSo I imagine this is a private company that is doing contracts with the city. The contracts are either with Transportation or Finance Departments. Hit the burecrats(sp?) that hire these jokers and maybe we can get rid of them.
This might be a place to start with complaints.
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If you live in SF you could also contact your local politician. Lets make some noise
I just got a notice from them. I did get a parking ticket. I sent in 2 certified letters to SF DPT requesting a protest in the time allowed. I moved after 3 months and left a forwarding address. About 6 months after I get a late notice to my old address forwarded (out of state). F-them. I am not going to call them or pay them anything. I filed a complaint with the BBB.
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They can contact me to clear it up and if they don't, I will send a Cease and Desist letter to them and if they contact me again, take them to small claims court.
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I got a letter today stating I owe $189.21 for a ticket that I did receive in AZ. The date of the ticket was in 1993. LDC states they have no record of payment, so I need to pay up today. I don't think I have proof of payment dating that far back, but I'm gonna check, just in case. They are supposed to send me a copy of the violation. For several years (15 to be exact)after this speeding ticket, I worked for the Fed Govt, so I know that I wouldn't have not paid a ticket. I never got any notices for warrants, etc. Seems awfully suspect to me....as if they hope I'll just pay them the money. I wonder if there's a statute of limitations or something.....
ReplyDeleteSimilar things are happening to me...but worse. I have been getting letters from LDC collection systems for unpaid court fines from a person who happens to have the same name as me in a state iv never been to. they say i owe $1200 in fines for drugs in Arizona and iv never even been there. The worst thing is I have tried to resolve it like 3 times by sending copies of my drivers license and all the paper work they asked for to prove i am not this other guy and its still not fixed. AND this stuff is showing up on my credit report!! its dragging my credit down. i got denied an auto loan because my credit score that was in the 700s is now in the 500s because some other idiot didn't pay his fines and the idiots at LDC cant find him so they just put all his stuff on me. Does any one know what i should do? i have contacted to the court, LDC, and even transunion to help me out and it just seems like nothing gets done! i cant have this on my credit the rest of my life. What do i do!?!?!
ReplyDeleteWOW! I just received a letter from the LDC stating a have a BOGUS unpaid parking ticket that I have never seen!I am ENRAGED! I just receive a notice saying I got a parking violation for "straddling," and the location of the "offense" is the address of of where Im supposed to send payment! Are they saying that I went to the Revenue Authority of Prince Georges County and got a ticket while paying a ticket??? Ive NEVER been there! I have called the MD prince georges county parking office and they are giving me the run around and NOT letting me speak to a supervisor! Does anyone know how we can rectify this? We need to report them to the Better Business Bureau (BBB), I tried, but their not registered as a legal establishment!
ReplyDeleteWhat number do you all have to the LDC agency??
LDC Collection systems...looks like PPA is bluffing. I bet its not an actual collection agency.
ReplyDeletehaha. yeah not funny but I get them too. a un-paid speeding ticket in Arizona. my parent swore they paid it. whatever, 10 years latter LDC comes to my house in a letter. saying you never paid your ticket in havasue. well they said they were the courts system trying to get unpaid moneys. haha my ass. they said they were going to suspend my driving privileges. i said wow you can do that over state lines after 10 years they said yes we can. i said good by. hung up tore up letter and now 1 year latter i get another one. i guess i have to remind them. also i asked if i can please take this back before a judge to resolve. they said no. so i knew they were full of shit.
ReplyDeleteOk, this makes me feel a bit better. I received a bogus ticket in Santa Monica, CA. "No front plate" although I DO have a front plate. I wrote to contest and received a letter saying the time to contest had elapsed. Within weeks of that letter I received a letter from this collection agency. The funny thing is that this is the 2nd time I've received the "no front plate" ticket while in Santa Monica even though I do have a front plate.
ReplyDeleteHello everyone: I received a letter from LDC last week first of all the Citation number in the letter was invalid and the issue date for the violation was 11/30/2004 which was 7 years ago in PG County, Maryland and the fine is $200.00 for No Parking Fire Lane. I don't intend to answer or pay because I don't know what they are talking about. What I plan to do is shredd the mail every time it shows up, let's see if they are brave enough to call me. Unless they can produce a ticket that was issued to me. I never received a traffic violation and so there is no case as far as I am concerned. They have my full name and address which could be obtained from any source, but again they have the wrong registration number. I worked with attorneys so I know how to play hard ball with them. I would sue them for harrassment if they ever make the mistake and call my home. They are not getting one penny from me. Folks don't let them scare you, besides I understand they are not registered as a legal department. You have to be aware of all the tricksters out to get your hard earned money. I have never gone where the so-called ticket was issued and don't even know where this location is. My letter is in the garbage and that's were everyone should store theirs.
ReplyDeleteGood Luck
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Has anyone been able to contact LDC collections to dispute their credit score reports? Any luck?
ReplyDeleteSome advice for those who are still negotiating with them: Offer to pay the amount in full only if they agree to remove their credit report in writing.
I cannot believe what I am reading. I received a notice from LDC about a month ago stating I had a balance due with a city court. But the last name listed on this notice had not been my name for the past 13 years, since I was married. I called the city court to find out what this was about and was told there is no record of either last name with their court. I was told to get in touch with LDC to find out more information on it. I cannot find a phone number for them and it looks as though it wouldn't do me any good anyway. I really felt like this was a scam of some type and now I am confident it is.
ReplyDeleteOn dealing with LDC.....
ReplyDeleteBe sure you are in the right.....have as much written proof as you can compile... take the time to get corroborating proof from the DMV if possible. Be prepared to show that you contacted LDC, by mail and phone if necessary. Write down what was said and who you talked to. Keep all correspondence from them or that which you sent them. Be prepared to spend several months dealing with the problem.
Then contact on line, the Ca. State Attorney Generals Office. They have an internal dept. which can help you. Fill out their on line form carefully. Be concise and precise, don't exaggerate or lie....you don't want to foul your own case and get in worse trouble be lying.
Contacting the BBB is useless LDC doesn't belong to them, the Calif. Dept of Consumers Affairs doesn't handle collections agencies, collection agencies were deregulated in the 1990's, you cannot sue LDC unless you both are in the same judicial district.
But if you make and present your case to CAG properly and well, they will in turn contact LDC...the CAG cannot by law take your case but if after contacting LDC for their side of the story and CAG finds your problem is legitimate they will use your information for any future cases against LDC.
http://ag.ca.gov/contact/complaint_form.php?cmplt=CL
f ldc, they're a bunch of damn crooks
ReplyDeleteWow! I'm amazed at how many other people are experiencing this!!! Same thing here! September 2011 LDC sent me a bill for $700 for a parking citation in Arizona dating back to 2001 -- YES, 2001!!! It was someone who had my first and last name, but different middle initial! I called the Tucson Courts and got a guy with a "Holier than Thou" attitude. He said the burden of proof is on me and that I needed to send them proof that I didn't own that car in 2001 -- 10 years ago!!! So I called the DOT, waited on hold for about 40 mins, and they finally told me that their records don't go back that far!
ReplyDeleteSIDE QUESTION: WHY DON'T THE CITY COURTS JUST LOOK IT UP VIA THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION?! DON'T THEY TALK TO EACH OTHER?!!!
At any rate, I sent a packet of all the proof I had. Luckily I had received a speeding ticket a month before this bogus citation showing the actual car I DID drive back in 2001....also, I found a copy of my registration from back then. So, I sent this to the address they told me to 5 DIFFERENT TIMES just to make sure they won't say, "Ahhh, we didn't get it" ALSO I faxed it to the number they gave me an additional 5 TIMES!!!
Do ya think that did the trick? NO! I just got another letter from them yesterday saying the EXACT same thing. I called the same numbers I called before and guess what....."Ahh, we didn't get it. What you need to do is send us proof that this was not you and that you didn't own this car!" Again, I bit my tongue and said, "BUT THAT'S NOT EVEN MY NAME ON THE CITATION!" All I got was, "SIR! SIR! SIR!!! I'M NOT GOING TO ARGUE WITH YOU...SEND US PROOF!
This has GOT to be criminal! Is there something we can do?!
Has anyone contacted the Attorney General's office? I haven't had personal experience with this but they sound horrible - They have to go!
ReplyDeleteToday I received a notice from LCD to tell me I had an "unsatisfied ticket with a 60 day amnesty period." The Vehicle Tag number was a car I once owned but I sold over three years ago. No where on this notice was the date of this supposed citation. It looks very official and includes a return envelope with an address which looks legitimate, but with a p.o. address to a different city in my state. Since the postman does not care who the name of the person or place is on the envelope, it goes to the address. I worry that a lot of people who don't question this type of thing and are intimidated by it, being are being taken advantage of by this scam. Any suggestions about how to expose this organization, which from the other e-mail, suggests it's all over he country?
ReplyDeleteHello Fellow Bloggers. This same EXACT thing has happened to me. LDC filed a credit judgment against my credit for a traffic violation that took place in Flagstaff, AZ. I have never been to Flagstaff, AZ!! I obtained a copy of the traffic citaiton from the Flagstaff Justice Court and the person listed has a Kansas City Missouri drivers license. The person has a similar name as me, but this citation is not mine! I DID FIND A SOLUTION THOUGH and I wanted to share. You can call the LDC Collection Systmes phone number at 602-412-2222. They are actually nice and they are understanding. I promise that if you are nice to them, they will help you resolve this matter. They will have you fax over some information about yourself and then will remove any trace of the collection from your name and credit report. I wish all of you the best of luck in getting this resolved. I was so very upset and I have been dealing with this for about a year now, but it has finally come to a resolution. I just wish I had that phone number sooner!!!! Good Luck out there!!
ReplyDeleteThis sounds ridiculous. We just got a notice that we owe for a parking violation in San Francisco. We were not in San Francisco. The weird thing is they have the right license plate for a truck we do currently own.?. Sounds like there information gathering is getting better.
ReplyDeleteARE WE GOING TO LET THESE MOTHER FERS DO THIS WITH IMPUNITY!?! LETS CLASS ACTION THEIR AZZ!
ReplyDeleteHas anyone had these letters actually hit their credit report?
ReplyDeleteI had a similar experience with another debt collector on a ticket that was 6-7 years old and was able to get it deleted from my record.
Same thing happened to my father but we don't have a vehicle registered under the license plate. They never called or anything and I found out it's not accredited by the BBB. Several complaints have been filed against it and people are trying to start a class suit. I'm pretty sure it's just a scam to get people out of their money. I shredded it as soon as I found it.
ReplyDeleteI got one of these the other day. I smell scam. For one, only the name is similar. Two, the license plate doesn't match anything I've ever driven/owned. Third, the dates are retarded and I haven't driven to SF and parked in my entire life (always BART).
ReplyDeleteCalled to make sure they didn't just send this to anyone with my name - no luck, bunch of nonsense and no information on the other line. SCAM
I just received a collection notice within the past 2 months for a ticket that I supposed got 5 years ago... The issue date was 11/23/2007. Today's date is 09/25/2012. What is wrong with this picture? The ticket is for $40. I never heard anything from this company regarding a first notice... can you say disregard. $40 can go on my credit report just like a fake bill from Patient First for $28 for a required vaccination that I was supposed to get that was not covered by my insurance company 9 years ago... I am soo sick of these kind s of scams... I hardly believe my credit is gonna be ruin by a $40 ticket from 5 years ago...
ReplyDeleteMy husband & I just got a Notice of Delinquent Parking Violation in the mail, for a Citation supposedly given on August 1, 2012 at 7:43am, for a street cleaning violation, cost is $62.00.
ReplyDeleteI looked up the Citation on the www.services.sfgov.org website, thinking this was a scam, but it even showed the citation. This is bizarre & impossible.
We haven't been to San Francisco & neither has our car, unless it was vacationing by itself. I hear San Francisco is lovely.
We live over 6 hours (400 miles) from this location. I was recovering from adverse affects of antibiotics, that I had to take for Pneumonia. My daughter had ballet class at 4pm that day. I am, at times, Super Mom, but that is even a bit much for me to get done.
The Citation lists our vehicle as a Nissan MA (I guess that means Maxima...which it's not). It shows the correct license plate number, but does NOT list the color, Registration Expiration OR VIN number...as specified in the California Vehicle Code.
My VIN and License/Expiration can be seen, so they cannot claim it's not visible.
V C Section 40202 Notice of Parking Violation
The notice of parking violation shall also set forth the vehicle license number and registration expiration date if they are visible, the last four digits of the vehicle identification number, if that number is readable through the windshield, the color of the vehicle, and, if possible, the make of the vehicle.
So, apparently I don't have enough to do...now I have to fight a bogus ticket produced by a criminal company. Of course I will NOT pay it, but this is ridiculous. Having to defend against something I did NOT do is wrong on so many levels.
I am writing a letter to LDC & SFMTA. I will CC others, such as the local SF Police Department, Congress people in SF and LA & the Better Business Bureau. I looked them up on the BBB website...the LDC Company got an F (Big shocker there). Who knows if anyone will care about my little complaint, but I feel that we put people into office to protect us and our laws. They need to uphold the laws and go after these criminals. I'm sure people are paying these fines out of fear of having their credit ruined. I don't understand how this false information can be inputted into a system and spit out a citation? You'd think the DMV would also get involved. How pathetic that the system seems more geared to help the criminals.
Karen B of Los Angeles
same story here...it looks like in addition to holding down full-time jobs, we have to fight evil.
DeleteI just got a similar letter to those received by all of you, for a ticket in 1993 issued to a guy 33 years older than me with the same first and last name but different middle name. After a bunch of digging I managed to find a number for LDC - it's 602-412-2222.
ReplyDeleteI called and spoke to Lisa, who (contrary to what I expected) was very patient and friendly. She asked if I'd ever lived in Dallas, which I haven't; as soon as she had that information she added a note to the file that my current address isn't valid for collection. She also told me that if I get anything else regarding the matter, I should write "Return to Sender" on the envelope and send it back.
As for those who think it's a scam - this is part of an Arizona state program called FARE that's designed to help municipalities collect on unpaid tickets. And to keep costs down, they farm out their address verification services - apparently to the lowest bidder, who doesn't bother to check middle names or birth dates. If you want to be upset with anyone, be upset with government officials who would rather try to collect on 20-year-old unpaid tickets than get their house in order here in the present day.
My Friends:
ReplyDeleteI receive today 4 letters from LDC - Ph. 602-412-2222. The number it's active as today 11/15/2012. When I contacted LDC, the rep. indicates, since I'm not the person in case, next time "I receive" a letter, just "Return to Sender".
Anyways, Pull always the record from the court "online" along with the case numbers as this demonstrate, the full name of the individual or "Defendant". Print it out and keep it until no family member or yours would be affected by it.
Also, always use a Call-Recorder in your smartphone, (are avail. for free in google or other systems) since this collection agencies use the call "for training and quality purposes" you could do it too, legally, since the presumption of recording it's mutual.
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The FARE program was undertaken by the AZ Supreme Court at the behest of LDC. And that should be the ringing bell you hear. A private firm approaches the court and proposes a plan that would potentially garner the court (always in need of money) and the company itself a significant amount of money. Unfortunately, the people being targeted may or may not be guilty of the offense listed. In most cases, they have no way of proving it nor of proving they paid the fine or court fees. It is no accident the cases being targeted are more than 5 years old: no records exist to prove otherwise. We need to take this up with our elected officials and then file complaints against the judges that approved the illegal and unconstitutional moves.
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ReplyDeleteI also have been fighting with them since July 2012. I sold my car to a man in San Francisco. I live in Oregon. He paid cash.
ReplyDeleteOf course he did not transfer title. 9 days later he gets a parking ticket. Total of 4 now totaling $666.00. The car has even been towed and impounded. Guess who they are after. I provided Oregon DMV with Notice of Sale as required. I tried working with SFMTA to resolve the first ticket. I was told to ignore future notices since the car was sold. LDC got involved. I called SCMTA again and I said that I was told to ignore future notices. They called me a liar. They are no better than LDC. I was told by LDC to peovide a copy of Notice of Sale. I did, which cost me money. Their reply was.
"We did not receive payment nor was Notice of Sale sufficient. Please send "Cerfified" Notice of Sale. Again, I did, Again it cost me. Again, the same response. We have not received payment, You have not sent sufficient information. Now I have an attorney involved.
Ok, So here’s the situation. Back in 2004 I received two citations for my Maryland registration being expired while parked at Greenbelt metro station (same citation but just got them two days in a row). Anyway, I remember they were 50 dollars each and I paid them. End of story right? Never heard from them again so I figured it was resolved. Well I get a letter from a collections agency a few weeks ago saying that PG county has done an audit and has found that my payment for these citations didn’t go through and that I now owe them 450.00! I’ve called these lump heads over at PG county revenue authority and asked them why the checks didn’t go through and to prove that to me by giving me the check numbers. They came back saying they can’t get that info but that I still have to pay it. I called bank of America (the only bank I’ve had since 2000) and they said I’ve never bounced a check. The collections agency is LDC Collection systems and as all of you have stated there's no contact number for them. I don’t want my credit damaged. I have an excellent credit score so this won’t kill it but it could hurt me anyway when applying for a job (background check) or buying a house. What do I do? Should I just pay it? 450 dollars won’t break the bank but I feel that this is extortion.
ReplyDeleteI am going through the same thing. I have received a notice with my old plate number which was a Honda Accord. But the notice says that its a Mercedes Benz. Its a parking violation in LA. Where i have never been. I dont know how to overcome this. They have put this in collections which ruined my credit. I was in the process of refinancing my house. Which i couldn't do because of this. Please advise.
ReplyDeleteI was cleared for a parking citation on 10/8/12 last year, received a letter of disposition from the city showing me "not guilty" and stamped with the city and court seal. I now have a letter threatening to take me to collections for the same citation. The following are the series of actions taken.
ReplyDeleteI received a notice in June 2012 that i had not paid the citation, issued for parking on city property at 350 Shoreline Dr, on 4/14/12 at 4:37 pm. I was not parked there as that location on that day and time is pit row of the Long Beach Grand Prix. No one can park there, it is blocked by 2 police cars, and the paddock down the hill is locked down. My vehicle was parked on El Jardin next to my residence at the day and time. I never received the first citation as my vehicle was not at that location.
I called parking as soon as I received the late notice and talked to a woman named Christie (not sure of spelling). She kindly investigated, reported to me that the hand written ticket had transposed license plate numbers, and told me she cleared the citation. She further told me that a letter of disposition would be sent to me for my records.
I spent 5 weeks away after that on business and vacation, and found that upon my return, I was being charged for the ticket again on my registration renewal with the state of California. Therefore I called again, and spoke to a man named Jeff, relating the previous information. He very attentively made sure the citation was cleared, pointedly stated his name, and that he would make sure the letter went out. I received the letter of disposition clearing the citation as "not guilty" 2 days later. This allowed me to pay for my vehicle registration for this year, which wouldn't have happened had he not cleared the citation.
Clearly, these people had access to city files, and that means our personal information. I will be puting a watch on everything I can with my credit, and have contacted the city. It's unknown if they are aware of LDC using the city as a business method. There has got to be a way to get these bastards.
Received a notice asking for $114 for a parking violation (VC5204A- registration tabs). Was nowhere in that vicinity on that date. Called the SFMTA & was directed to the customer service at LDC Collections. The guy asked for the ticket number and the name on the vehicle. Told him it was the wrong color & he said he would fix the problem & send out a letter saying the matter is cleared. He just took my word for it. Why do they want to harass people & make them prove my innocence (wasting my time). How stupid do they think people to just pay some ticket because it comes from a collection agency or from a transportation agency? Why do they have access to the DMV records & get people's information & send ridiculous letters to intimidate them to pay? How absurd!!!
ReplyDeleteI just checked my credit report yesterday and found that LDC had started collections for a ticket that was issuesd in LA in 2007. The only issue is at the time the ticket was issued, I lived in Arizona and had been nowhere near LA for years. When LDC was called, they asked is I lived in Beaumont, California. I said I had lived there in 2004 but the address did not match my address. Also the car and plate did not match any vehicle I have ever owned. Now it is up to me to prove my innocence for a ticket issued when I hadn't lived in California at that time. What a racket!!! Also, LDC and the LA city parking bureau appear to be the same entity as their phon numbers are only one number off one ending in 2 and one ending in 3. I have sent them a letter and also sent the California attorney general a letter to report them for fraud. They need to be put out of business!!!
ReplyDeleteJust today I opened a letter addressed to my late husband who died last year in June of 2013; apparently he got a red-light citation on in October of that year... Humm I wonder to myself.. If they want the money from my husband they can go find him and get it from him... Meanwhile this car is in my name now... The citation is in his... Good luck with spirit money. If my Ghost Husband whom I love dearly is still driving I want to know how this could happen? Is this proof of ghost.. I bet I could get a lot of money for this kind of proof… I happen to think they are a fraud.
ReplyDeleteSo I received an alleged parking Citation in San Francisco, when we have never been there. They have the right license plate, and what appears to be the Make and model of the car. I am wonder how a criminal organization has access to these records to falsify parking tickets? Well, letters are out to the BBB the SFMTA, LDC, and next the district attorney. If not resolution is reached, I am seeking a Class action lawsuit against LDC, SMFTA and possible the DMV which where I assume the information is being gathered. Will keep you posted!
ReplyDeleteI' m with you with the class action lawsuit against LDC Scammer Systems, they played me also.
DeleteMy best suggestion is to file a complaint with the BBB. LDC Collection Systems seems to have multiple locations (none in Rhode Island, where I live), so I'm not sure which one to file against. But most companies will respond to a BBB complaint. They do not have to be a BBB member for you to file a complaint. It's as easy to file that as it is for them to send you their collection letters that include no contact information...
ReplyDeleteLDC is not BBB accredited. No surprise.
DeleteIf you think a debt collector has violated a law, you can file a complaint with the California Attorney General's Office at 800.952.5225 and the FTC at 877.FTC.HELP or 877.382.4357. Collection laws give you the right to sue a collector in a State or Federal court within one year from the violation date.
ReplyDeletei think the state of california has violated a law with its insane ticket revenue system. i got a ticket for not turning my wheels in on a minor slope in santa monica. when i first saw the ticket on my windshield i was afraid that maybe the color of my car ruined the local color scheme.
DeleteThese people are scandalous! Dig deep investigating them! It will be worth it!
ReplyDeleteI just got a final warning, went to san francisco police depth and I did have a ticket, and I was in the city at the time... check with the police depth of the city and see if you have a ticket.
ReplyDeleteMake them appear in a small claims court hearing. I will. I certainly won't be paying the $27 collection fee. There should be a consumer group that fights usurious ticket escalations too.
ReplyDeleteI'm going threw something worse I have paid a ticket of around $860.00 to ldc for a speeding ticket so about 4 days ago I was driving got pulled over for a traffic stop so I end up getting arrested it turns out ldc never made my payment to the court who issued the ticket and i ended up going to jail for a active warrant on that ticket and for having my license suspended because of that ticket and I've tried to reach then and no luck till today now they tell me they have no record of my payment and the person who took my payment apparently has never worked their ugh I'm so tired of these peoples crap I have already bin to jail twice because of this I need help
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ReplyDeleteTHE WORD HATE IS NOT WHAT I WOULD USE
I JUST SAY ATTENTION
I PAID THIS
YOUR CLERK DID NOT CREDIT IT
I AM ON A FIXED INCOME
DON'T BEAT AROUND THE BUSH
YOU CASHED IT.... MY BANK SAID SO.aka unknown means i did not enter my name on purpose.
Does any one have there number I just got a second Notice from LDC for a ticket back in 12/12/2017 in Oak Cliff Dallas,TX mind you I never lived in Texas for 3 years...returned the car ti Drivetime which I leased it from.
ReplyDeleteWe need to organize. Class Action suit. I had my state tax refund witheld, for traffic fines for a person who only shared a few letters in my name.
ReplyDeleteWhat does impostion mean i recieved a LDC collections System I dont drive but i did get a ticket paying 50.00 a month they took my state taxes but why am i seeing a impostion date 2009 when this happened in 2017 they want a payment of 96.79 i looked up my civil case nothing pops up i looked in criminal cases nothing pops up for 2017 for my ticket i recieved or the court date i went to can someone tell me is this fake should i pay this or not
ReplyDeleteImpostion is a fee, tax or some sort of duty or tariff imposed on a person. Like a fine or penalty.
DeleteI received a "FINAL NOTICE from LDC Collections of your continued failure to meet your Pima County Consolidated Justice Court financial obligation(s)."
ReplyDeleteWell, I received the first notice from ADOT at the beginning of August, 2017. I contacted the court that the notice said I owed the money to. I sent them an email and guess what? They never responded to me! At that point I pretty much wrote it off. My bad! About a week and a half ago I received ANOTHER LETTER FROM ADOT AND the notice from LDC Collection Systems saying I owed $113.05 to the courts in Pima County for a citation that I supposedly received back in April of 2002!
Well, I had won a few thousand dollars in 2006 or 7 and I went to Motor Vehicle, paid all of them (actually, I went to the courthouse & paid them) then went to the Motor Vehicle that was in the SAME building & paid the fee to have my drivers license re-instated! Sure wish I would have kept the paperwork from the entire ordeal! But I took care of it so why wouldn't this ticket they say I still owe, have come up at that time? It was even the VERY SAME COURT where I took care of everything else! Go FIGURE!
I just got a letter today from LDC Collection Systems. Threatening to intercept my income tax refund unless I pay to meet Tucson City Court financial obligations. It says unless you notify Tucson City Court in writing within 30 days to dispute the validity of the debt the court will assume this debt is valid. What a hoax!
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